Meeting Agenda and Minutes
AGENDA
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
TUES. – May 6, 2008 – 5 PM
COMMUNITY CENTER
AGENDA
CALL TO ORDER:
FLAG SALUTE:
INTRODUCTIONS:
APPROVE 4/1/08 MINUTES:
TREAS. REPORT:
PRESENTATION:
Steve Wingert – publisher of LV Leader, Victor Valley
Daily Press, Barstow Dispatch (Freedom Newspapers). Aspects of the newspaper
business in the High Desert – thoughts on taking over the Leader, etc.
DISCUSSION:
What should be the functions of LVEDA and the MAC –
which can do what the best – our committee roles, etc.
Update on various energy projects proposed for LV
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
FUTURE MEETINGS:
June: Presentation by Mojave Desert Mining Advisory
Council (Dinah Shumway - MDMAC) re: local and regional desert mining issues.
June or July: SCE’s plans for LV, cost of power extensions, power losses,
relationships w/various proposed LV energy projects, etc. Colorado River Basin
WQCB’s plans in LV? Sanbag/Caltrans: High Desert Corridor Project’s
implications to LV. NFIB speaker re: impact of legislation on small business.
Big Bear Area Regional Wastewater Authority (BBARWA) re: future plans for
wastewater use and proposed solar project on its LV parcels. Improvements to
County permit process relative to General Plan Update. Fire Code amendments for
rural unincorporated areas. County Econ. Dev. rep. re: economics of rural
development – property taxes and services – implications of Victor Valley growth
on LV.
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (LVEDA)
Draft 4/1/08 Minutes
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Magee at 5:08
FLAG SALUTE: Jean Fuqua
APPROVE: 3/4/08 Minutes
TREAS.
REPORT: $1420.76 bal. $38 collection at March meeting. Treas. Dave Rib
reiterated concern re: balance and future insurance payments.
Regional
Wastewater Plan Letter: (Bd. subsequently approved via e-mail and sent).
PRESENTATION:
GRANITE MT. WIND ENERGY PROJECT: Up to 27 wind turbines - some visible from
LV- on the
ridges between Lucerne Valley and Apple Valley. Access to the project sites is proposed to be west off
Spinel Rd. from
Barstow Rd. north of Lucerne Dry Lake. A new powerline from the facility would connect to existing SCE
lines. BLM and County permits are required.
Presented by Jorn Larsen
– Granite Wind, LLC (based in San Ber.). Attending and commenting: Mickey
Quillman – BLM. Nancy Jackson – SCE. Doug Fermin – County Planning.
(Presentation hand-outs available at meeting and incorporated into these
minutes). Site has highest wind speeds in area – studied for 3 yrs. $130 mil.
econ. benefits locally and regionally. To begin const. in 09 – on line in
2010. Operate for 25-30 yrs. (30 yr. BLM lease). No water consumption during
operation. On BLM and private land. BLM authorization and County Use Permit
required – doing joint environmental and decision process. G Wind has 4
projects slated in general area. FAA permit requires wind machines to be painted
white. 2.3 megawatts/turbine X 28 turbines. (62-81 MW total). Each one
equivalent in energy production to 20 – 30 wind machines in the Tehachapi Mts.
415’ high with blade straight up. 12-15 revolutions/minute – slow compared
to Palm Springs
machines. Start rotating at 5-6 mph. Statistics show no property value
effects. Will meet State’s 2010 threshold deadline for 20% from renewable power
sources. Has SCE contract. PM winds coincide w/typical summer peak elec.
demands. Distance of 3 football fields between towers. All private financing.
Includes (1) 2.3 mile transmission line connection to existing line – capacity
of which is being studied. Interconnect was approved 1 ½ yrs. ago. Access road
to be graveled for dust control, etc. BLM - Mickey: @2 yrs. before
decision. 2 other wind projects proposed for Johnson Valley. (Also said 29
Palms Marine Base is studying @ 100,000 ac. expansion – possibly in
Johnson
Valley
– but 5 yrs. before any decision. SCE – Nancy: Calif. is one of the
most energy efficient states in the nation. But w/2% demand increase/yr. – even
with conservation – need to achieve 20% “renewable” goal per state mandate. SCE
now at 17% - plans on achieving 20% in 2010.
County Planning - Doug:
County has MOU w/BLM re: this project and for other applications solely on BLM
land in order to officially represent County and resident issues and concerns.
Described the County process, future hearings, etc.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: (no time)
ADJOURNED: @7:15 PM.
C. Bell,
Sec. ________________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (LVEDA)
Draft 3/4/08 Minutes
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Magee at 5:05 PM – Community Center
FLAG SALUTE: George Yablonski
INTRODUCTIONS: Everyone
APPROVE: 2/5/08 Minutes (w/addition: “opinions were expressed” that solar
projects require significant amounts of land for relatively few megawatts
“compared to conventional power plants”).
TREAS. REPORT: Bal: $1382.76. Senior Club dues caught up. $200 dues paid to RC&D
- offset by 2 ($50) contributions from members. $56 from “hat pass” last
meeting. Bell thanked Linda for doing the IRS filing on computer (completed).
PRESENTATION:
BY APPLE VALLEY TOWN MAYOR TIM JASPER AND AV PLAN COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN CLIFF EARP
– WHAT’S HAPPENING IN APPLE VALLEY AND IMPLICATIONS FOR LV.
Cliff Earp: Provided info. on AV’s General Plan update . Town has been
incorporated for 20 years. He was involved in incorporation. AV trying to plan
for its current “Sphere of Influence” which is under County jurisdiction. Sphere
is 130 sq. miles. Current Town incorporated boundaries are @ 71 sq. miles. The
sphere’s eastern boundary is @ Milpas Rd.
Mayor Tim Jasper: (Provided hand-outs which are incorporated into and referenced
by
these minutes). Working on MOU with First Dist. on how to deal with proposed
projects
under County land-use control within sphere. The AV Plan pretty much has to be
confined to its current sphere. If not, LAFCO could require an EIR for any
significant expansion. Developers pay for their requested zone changes. The only
current plans for annexation into its sphere is in the “Golden Triangle” – N. AV
Industrial Park area. Plan
is projected out 10-15 yrs. The North AV Industrial Park Specific Plan area is @
5100 acres. Water delivery – fire flow – and looped piping system all required.
Within Rancho Water Dist’s boundaries – to use its water rights for the Ind.
Park. 30 mil/ sq.’ of industrial space = jobs. There are many small parcels in
N. AV’s Specific Plan area, including large blocks of BLM. Only impact of
development related to the AV Airport will be compliance with “air space rules”.
1st phase of High Desert Corridor in AV is set for 2012 – a 4 lane “parkway” -
east from I-15 through n. AV to Joshua Rd. in e. AV.
Discussion followed re: impact on Lucerne Valley. There are 3 major geographic
areas
in AV (north/central and south). 25 mil sq.’ new retail in the past 5 yrs. Sales
tax up 6% and increasing.
Commercial dev. is changing traffic patterns. East side now getting commercial
and other services – which helps to reduce traffic concentrations. BV/Central
Rd. project now in bankruptcy. AV School Dist. facilities not moving to that
location yet. Cities need commercial sales tax to help sustain residential
development. AV “Village” property owners created an “Imp. District” – w/prop.
tax used to improve the area. The “locals” have say so on dev., etc. The Town is
just a conveyor of the tax $s. Condo project on Hwy 18 @Kiowa Rd. is also
bankrupt. AV Road improvement cost @ $5.6 mil – including new nat. gas and water
lines. Yucca Loma Rd. bridge on track. Const. in late 2010 w/Meas. I funds.
Could cost up to $95-250mil. AV is the lead - using AV/VV/and County $. Eng. and
env. starts in year or so. Need 2 bridges due to the curve. Yates Rd. projected
for 4 lanes.
LADWP’S “GREEN PATH NORTH” powerline project.
Calif. Desert Coalition (Danny and April Sall) gave the 2nd. power-point
presentation to LVEDA re: adverse impacts. (See previous minutes for project
details).
LVEDA previously submitted a resolution in opposition and members signed
petition. County Board of Sup. and Cong. Jerry Lewis in opposition. Major issue
for LV and eastern north-slope communities.
KATE ROSENBERG: New LV Leader Interim Editor.
Leader purchased by VV Daily Press. OK to e-mail notices re: community events.
The 2
“employees” are Kate and Sheila. Jeanmarie will do columns. Kate to cover as
many meetings as she can. Will use DP staff and photographers – and Don Judkins.
It will be
“local” paper. Ryan Orr handles County issues – will be in Leader when affects
LV. Friday is best for deadlines – but sometimes OK until Mon. 3PM. Ernie: DP
Publisher Steve Wingert said it will be “local” – as is the Barstow Desert
Dispatch. Sheriff’s blotter to return when available.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
March 15 – full household haz. waste collection at Fire Station. Discussion re:
BNSF’s current road closures over rail spur in spite of its assurance that “no
residents would be
land-locked”. We will try to coordinate LVEDA meeting announcements w/Senior C.
newsletter. New businesses discussed. Roadrunner’s events announced. LV Moose
Lodge recognized for its contributions to community. American Legion in town now
– at
Jack Olandia. Concept Homes models improves the “look” on Hwy 18 – as does the
Riddle/Delperdang storage facility (major improvements along the commercial
corridor).
“Town Cleanup” April 4/5 at Market/Hdwe. lot.
ADJOURNED: @ 7:15PM.
C. Bell, Sec. ______________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (LVEDA)
Draft 2/5/08 Minutes
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Magee at 5:08 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Jean Fuqua
APPROVE: 1/8/08 Minutes:
TREAS. REPORT: 1/8/08 collection: $37. 2/5 collection: $56. Bal. $1426.76
Treasurer Dave Rib to become a check signer – replacing Lynn Kraemer. Check
signatories: Jean Magee – Dave Rib – Chuck Bell. Dave discussed potential budget
shortfall. The average $30 collection per meeting won’t cover the $500+ annual
ins. cost over time. Might not need insurance if don’t meet at CCenter. Bd. to
deliberate.
OFFICERS: Announced election by Bd.: Pres. – Jean Magee. VP – Sharon Henderson.
Sec. – Chuck Bell. Treas. - Dave Rib.
DMRC&D DUES: Voted to pay full $200 dues – with 2 $50 pledges to LVEDA from
members. Will be asking RC&D for support for water/sewer grants and other
projects.
ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSIONS:
Des/Mt. Resource Conservation and Dev. Dist:
Marie summarized its role. It is a non-profit 501 C-3 (same as LVEDA).
Congressionally approved. Base budget is only $15,000/yr. Dependant on grants
for its
operation. Partners with NRCS. Bd. member Barbara Veale represents the LV
Chamber.
Marie is Sec. and represents LVEDA. Goal is to provide solutions to community
problems. Partners with various organizations for resource conservation
programs.
Provided help to ranchers on the Kern River/helped obtain loaned quads from
Honda for
the MDRCD’s Mojave River weed eradication project/dealing with groundwater
arsenic
problems/watershed coordination and grants/works with tribal agencies/etc.
Individuals,
non-profits and local gov. agencies can belong to the RC&D.
Bylaw changes:
Per prior meeting actions, LVEDA bylaws have been changed and filed to reflect
earlier
changes to Bd. election process.
Water/Sewer update (Col. WQCB meeting and grant applications)
LVEDA reps. attended a Col. RWQCB meeting in Indio – presenting our proposed,
limited, phased water/sewer project - requested support for various grant
funding options, etc. Well received.
Road projects update:
Brief description of issues and projects we are requesting. (Road list
previously distributed and on LVEDA’s LV internet site).
Solar/wind energy projects proposed on BLM and private land around Lucerne
Valley:
Discussed the multitude of proposed sites scattered around the Calif. Desert and
LV. Of particular interest is the Granite Mt. project – Apple Valley side – but
with potential access off of Barstow Rd. north of Lucerne Dry Lake. Tremendous @
of land required for relatively few megawatts. One possible reason for DWP’s
“Green Path” power line proposal through s. LV is its potential for connection
to these desert solar/wind sites.
Fund raiser for opposition to DWP power lines?
Jean Marie suggested a “car show” – can bring in substantial revenue.
Status of BNSF RR crossing closures:
BNSF closed access to USFS rd. leading to Grapevine Cyn. – discovered by COPs.
(An alternative route is available – but more circuitous). Residents both east
and west of High Rd. are getting letters from BNSF requesting info. on their use
of crossings – with possible intent to close or require permits, etc. RS 2477
filing (to keep roads open) might be an option, but the process is still under
Dept. of Interior review. A “prescriptive right” filing may or may not work. The
County lost one at an Oak Hills crossing. The Mojave Desert RCD sent letter in
support of residents and the need to maintain access south of the rail spur for
resource protection projects.
ANNOUNCEMENTS/WHAT’S HAPPENING AROUND TOWN:
Long-time, popular LV resident, Roadrunner member and Leader columnist Pat
Judkins is in a “care facility”. Jean Marie announced 2 car shows (May 31 at
Lion’s Park and Nov. 8 for the Roadrunners). “Lucerne Valley Days” in April –
either at park, Lions or HS? Marie discussed Sen. Boxer’s Wilderness Bill –
which will include more area around LV. Includes old “wilderness study areas”
and some outside. Millie: Mitsubishi’s Education Foundation will start fund
raising (Oct. 4 off-road bike charity race, etc.). Proceeds would go ½ to the
fund’s principle – ½ to the HS’s ag. barn. Loraine: Senior Cit. yard sale this
weekend – can drop off donations thurs. Full household and e-waste collection
March 15.
FUTURE MEETINGS AND TOPICS:
NOTE: MARCH 4 LVEDA – PRESENTATIONS BY APPLE VALLEY TOWN MAYOR TIM JASPER AND AV
PLAN COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN CLIFF EARP – WHAT’S HAPPENING IN APPLE VALLEY AND
IMPLICATIONS TO LV.
April/May – Presentation by Mojave Desert Mining Advisory Council (MDMAC) re:
local mining issues. Colorado River Basin WQCB’s plans in LV? Sanbag/Caltrans:
High Desert Corridor Project’s implications to LV. SCE’s plans for LV, cost of
power extensions and frequent power losses. NFIB speaker re: impact of
legislation on small business. Big Bear Area Regional Wastewater Authority (BBARWA)
re: future plans for wastewater use and proposed solar/wind? project on its LV
parcels. Improvements to County permit process relative to General Plan Update.
Fire Code amendments for rural unincorporated areas. County Econ. Dev. rep. re:
economics of rural development – property taxes and services – implications of
Victor Valley growth on LV.
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (LVEDA)
Draft 1/8/07 Minutes
CALL TO ORDER: Jean at 5:05 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Julie Bell
APPROVE: 12/04/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: Bal.: $1469.76
BD. ELECTIONS: Elected slate presented by Nom. Committee: (Sharon Henderson -
Richard Selby – David Rib - Chuck Bell)
BY-LAW AMENDMENT: Approved Dec. election instead of Jan.
PRESENTATIONS:
Program Director Mike Telerico re: our High School's new Charter program – to
provide students with sufficient vocational skills to enable them to get a job
directly upon graduation.
School Dist. Bd. Member Jean Morgan introduced Mike who moved to LV for this
program. The “Career Academy” is a School Dist. run charter high school.
Significant drop out rate in Calif. is major problem. Our cohesive School Bd.
took the risk to do it. Mike worked for large corp. that operated charter
schools. Worked with “at risk” students for 20 yrs. 60-70% of HS students not go
to 4 yr. college. This program gives them a certificate to present to employers.
All in conjunction w/ VV College. LVUSD offers wide array of independent study
and career path counseling. Individual learning plans and electives. In 3 years,
could be a HS grad. with 1 yr. of college. The LV School Dist. is forming an
“Advisory Council” as required by charter programs - comprised of local bus. and
community leaders. Want to determine “what is needed” in community (ie: diesel
mechanics, etc.). Form alliances with bus. for apprenticeships, etc. Focus on
work ethics, job readiness, need to perform better than the average HS
curriculum. The charter program was approved 15 years ago by Calif. We are
starting programs w/SB City College, Copper Mt. College, in addition to VVC.
Looking for more partnerships. Offers short cuts to college classes. Morning
college classes are more accessible – less enrollment – so works for colleges.
Have 70 students now – ½ from LV – 10% of current HS population. Still need std.
curriculum to get to college. Can take academic classes (in addition to
vocational classes) if want to go to a full 4 year college. Can do both at no
cost to students. A “charter school” is a “public school” – funded the same thru
Dept. of Ed. We got $250,000 fed. grant from US Dept. of Ed. Funding is not
normally cut from charter programs but may not get increased. Current funding on
hold. But w/independent study – not have to maintain facilities – so less
costly. Will be at “full strength” w/100 plus students. Teachers are paid on
“per student basis”- further reducing costs. The “Career Academy” offers
multiple choices. The Advisory Council will meet quarterly.
Mitsubishi Cement Corp.’s Educational Foundation – Millie Rader:
Started in 05 as a charitable 501-C3. Mitsubishi has funded it with @$300,000
principle – with interest to be used to provide what our school can’t afford. It
wants 2 large fundraisers. School is to provide list of unfunded programs. ½ of
proceeds go to the program – ½ to build the fund. Need help with ideas and
coordination.
Presentation by Capt. Stalnaker and Sgt. Blaine Chambers re: status of our LV
Sheriff Substation – staffing, etc.
Ernie introduced the following issues:
1. What are the realistic expectations? We have been given promises – but Sgt.
and staff have been retained in VV,
2. We have a new substation – but what has changed?
3. What are priorities of unincorporated County vs. city Sheriff contracts?
4. Inflow or urbanization-type crimes.
5. Budget problems.
6. No longer have a “known resident deputy”.
7. Locked door at substation.
Capt/ Stalnaker introduced Blaine and Stella (Info. Officer). Have to keep door
locked for safety reasons. Deputies not always on site. A “resident deputy” is
not posted here or in other communities. 9 deputies assigned to LV – on patrol –
not always at station nor not all at one time. On 24/7 basis – it takes 6
deputies to have 1 in area all the time. Capt. wants 12 deputies for our
station. Substation boundaries include LV – east AV – north to Slash X in
Barstow – east beyond Johnson Valley. Phelan has 10 deputies. 16 deputies for
unincorporated County area in Victor Valley (not including city contracted
force). 2 Sgts. off for med. reasons. Have to carry the positions even if not
coming back. Budget is $12 mil. in hole – no overtime. Robin (LV Substation
clerk) has to do reports – admin. work – carries documents to court, etc. Not
always there. Jail is short of staff. Dispatching is very stressful job. Dept.
wants good customer service. Lt. Herbert is in VV. LV is a “unique community” –
the Dept. recognizes the special needs of all communities. When get another Sgt.
– Blaine will be back mostly full time. Dept. is “trying to work it out” It’s
not on “deaf ears” – but working with “deaf $”. Re: SISP (LV) e-mails being
blocked (“blacklisted”) by the Dept. – “SISP” is a different domain from Sher.’s
system. Working w/techs. to get resolved. Will try to keep Robin at station as
much as possible. No replacement for her when on vacation. Deputies have to take
reports – usually go to crime site – better than victims having to go to
station. Wants deputies out of station on patrol, unless doing reports. Try to
rotate deputies – not let them get in a rut. COPs can and do carry reports to
and from VV. Responded to gas station robbery within 90 seconds – but no
capture. Got to the gun shop within 6 min. – but same. Can’t be everywhere at
one time. Re: YAB – first time minor offenses to to Juv. Court. Ed from Market/Hdwe.
refers minor aged shoplifters in his report to YAB. Court does not always follow
through. We want deputies to refer minors with first time offenses to YAB. Seems
to be a black hole in the VV system since we have only had 1 YAB client this
past year. LVYAB asked Probation and court to work on it (again). There is no
office in the substation available for Code Enf. since VV County Code Enf.
wanted our CE rep. to be in Victorville. Bd. of Sup. is the Dept.’s funder – and
Sup. Brad Mit. has been pro- law enforcement and public safety. Problem lies in
reduced County revenue. Average response time to shop lifting/etc. at market/hdwe.
is 40 minutes. Great risk to Ed and staff to hold shoplifters waiting for deputy
to show up. Capt. said to ID the shoplifter – get report and address – and let
go if threatened to reduce conflicts. Dep. will pick up. Problem of course is –
who wants to let a criminal go home to “wait” for a deputy to come pick him/her
up?? The Dept’s OHV taskforce got grant $ - 2 more quads – 2 more bikes. Using
reserve units and deputies. Recently went after trespassers in Phelan , mostly
doing education. OHVs still constitute major trespass and environmental problem
on private land – but Dept. is more active with grants and equipment. Making
progress. School Dist. reps. praised the Dept. for quick responses and actions.
And successful capture of thief hitting remote cattle ranch, etc. COPs do more
than just law enf. work – ie; recently reported a major water leak at Golden
State Water Co. site. The best local phone# for the station is 6686 – with 243
8720 the VV #.
Resolution previously sent to Calif. Desert Coalition re: opposition to “Green
Path North” (DWP power lines through LV): Approved.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
We can join van from Johnson Valley to Ontario to DWP hearing. Chamber mixer at
Letty’s Jan. 23.
C. Bell, Sec. ___________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (LVEDA)
Draft 12/4/07 Minutes
CALL TO ORDER: Jean at 5:10 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Jo Richards
APPROVED: 11/6/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: $15 check to Chamber. Bal: $1437.76
SLATE OF BD. CANDIDATES: (NOMINATING COMMITTEE): 4 candidates for 4 positions -
Sharon Henderson/Richard Selby/David Rib/Chuck Bell (w/All candidates present).
Vote is Jan. 8.
PRESENTATION:
By the Calif. Desert Coalition re: Opposition to Los Angeles Department of Water
and Power’s (“Green Path North”) proposal for a major electrical transmission
line from the lower desert through the communities of Morongo Valley,
Pioneertown, Landers, Johnson Valley, Lucerne Valley (at the base of the north
slope of the SB Mountains), south Apple Valley and Hesperia – to connect to the
power grid at Upland.
(Prior to this meeting and in order to make a Bd. of Supervisor’s meeting
deadline - LVEDA sent e-mail – with follow-up phone call - to Supervisor
Mitzelfelt and the County Bd. of Supervisors in opposition based on “no benefit
to Lucerne Valley – with significant detriment to our land-uses and private
properties – only because of problems associated with the Banning Pass route).
Members concurred. County Supervisors passed opposition resolution. LVEDA
resolution subsequently sent to CDC.
Details of presentation are included in hand-outs and on CDC web site. Aside
from the typical aesthetic, environmental and land-use impacts – this new
corridor would create significant new potential for OHV access, trespass on
private parcels, wildfires, etc. “Green” power (ie: geothermal in Imperial
Valley) would only constitute a small percentage of megawatts feeding into the
power lines from currently approved sources. This alternative corridor is very
likely fueled by the potential for hookups to the multitude of proposed solar
and wind projects on BLM lands – which alone could be detrimental to Mojave
Desert resources. Alternative route through the “congested” Banning Pass is the
most direct – could be viable with upgrade of existing lines (super conductors
doubling capacity of existing lines, etc.) – less expensive than through us?
Alternatives also include a multitude of smaller power sources located closer to
the areas of demand in the coastal basin. LADWP is a self-governing entity – it
alone decides its projects – performs its own environmental/land-use reviews –
approves it own projects w/o Calif. Energy Commission or PUC discretionary
reviews and approval – abetted by recent Fed. legislation that can override
local jurisdictions for so-called “green” energy projects – and with no County
jurisdiction. Other than the BLM permitting process, we don’t have a good local
forum to deal with this. We are not in the “national corridor system”. Discussed
implications to our potential BLM land exchange and industrial use options along
the rail spur if this new corridor is selected.
Report on recent meeting re: LV Road projects.
Due to time constraints – no report given. Report previously sent to members.
Ernie Gommel: “The Vision of LVEDA”
Ernie reviewed the formation of LVEDA – the recession and poor economics of the
early 90’s. Needed to react and protect the community. Need “rural” services for
our rural, unincorporated environment. Discussed the need for “unity” – working
together as a community. Major purpose of LVEDA is to “inform” – bring in info.,
experts and reps. of agencies that affect us. Need “understanding” – not
necessarily “agreement”. Before the Regional Econ. Dev. Agency (REDA) was taken
over by the cities, we build a reputation of credibility when Ernie was on the
board. Discussed the economic implication of “super stores” on competition with
smaller businesses. Need to encourage local shopping to keep local business
viable and “in town”. “What is LVEDA’s role in the upcoming economy”? Need to
“bring together – not divide”. It’s a matter of survival. Bring in good people –
open-minded and informed decisions. Discussed the productive vs. non-productive
impacts of government on local communities.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Implications of dump card requirement at transfer station – more desert dumping?
(Might be working out OK – no LVEDA intervention needed yet?). E-wastes now to
be collected at bi-monthly household haz. waste (ABOP) collections behind Fire
Stations. ABOP site to be paved. Next LVEDA meeting Jan. 8 since Jan. 1 is
holiday. Burn permits – discussed fire and air quality constraints. Burrtec
cooperating well re: escaping trash from dumpsters loading into trucks. Problem
with clients not bagging all trash in dumpsters. Some discussion re: water
hauling problem. Time for the free enterprise to take over.
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (LVEDA)
Draft 11/6/07 Minutes
CALL TO ORDER: Jean Magee @ 5 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Freda
APPROVED: 10/2/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: Sen. Cit. (-100). Aug./Sept. collections (+42). 10/12 bal:
(1427.26). 11/6 collection (+45 -20 cash to Prof. Meek for travel)
APPOINT NOM. COMMITTEE: (Lor. A./Linda G./Jim V.) Election in Jan.
PRESENTATION:
Professor Norm Meek – Cal State SB – Mojave River and Lucerne Valley geology.
Mojave River very young – only @ 1 mil. years old. Created by rising SB and San
Gab.
Mt. ranges. Drainage to desert interior – not Pacific Ocean. Desert originally
drained to
the ocean. Deep Creek is main tributary. Forks Dam is partial flood control only
– no gates. SG range was its watershed when mts. were where Cajon Pass is now.
San Andreas Fault split it off – so SB Mts. are now its watershed.
Mt. movement averages 1”/yr. Moj. Des. “block” is actually rotating – with n/w
trending faults – most are active. Currently the Calif. climate is “abnormal” –
was wetter and cooler during most of recent history after ice age – where Death
Valley lakes were 700’ deep. Significant climate changes about every 10,000
years. 18,000 years ago – ice covered Chicago – mostly melted around 9,000 years
ago. Desert was a grass/tree savannah – started to dry up @ 10,000 years ago.
Mojave River has changed courses over time, once went to Harper Lake. Lake
Mannix covered much of area east of Barstow – with dense assortments of fossils
(tigers/mammoths/camels/horse/peccaries/etc. White tufa (carbonate buildup)
indicates underwater springs and rocks under water. In packrat nests layered and
cemented by urine we find 20,000 year old matter. Much of area was a tule swamp
and pinyon/juniper hillsides. Afton Canyon was formed by rapid draining of Lake
Mannix over a number of short periods. The top of the canyons in Afton was at
the bottom of the river before canyon was formed. Even after Afton was formed,
some flows still diverted to Coyote Basin (NE of Barstow). Now River can flow
into Lake Soda (and north to Silver Lake north of Baker) – and/or into the
Cronese Basin, depending on character of flows, amount of carried sediment,
man-made dikes for railroad, etc.
Lucerne Valley geology: Most of rise in the SB and SG Mt. ranges has occurred
over past 2 mil. years. The fastest rising mt. ranges on earth. 45,000’ of
carbonates formed over 100 mil. years during Paleozoic period – piled up and
compressed. We were a continental shelf, baked by pressure and by magma rising
up through it. Baked limestone is marble. Granites are younger than the
limestone – batholiths exuded up during the Mesozoic (time of dinosaurs). For
past 25 mil.years, s. Calif. has had sideways wrenching. A thrust fault is
jacking up our mountains. Most of the desert faults are strike/slip – not
thrust. Thrust faults zig/zag around mountains whereas strike/slip faults are
more linear – and quake movements zip along the fault about 1 mile/sec. SB
Mts. moved 18” north in Big Bear quake. Blackhawk Slide is one of most visited
in nation – could have been caused by earthquake. Shallow quakes have higher
shaking.
No real studies done on Helendale Fault. It is 70 miles long with a 2000 yr.
quake re-occurrence (Fife). Generally: a 6 mag. quake will generate a 10 mile
(surface) rupture – 7 mag. will rupture over a 40 mile segment – and an 8 mag.
with a 200 mile break. Helendale Fault is active and could rupture like Landers,
etc. Deep faults usually cause
no rupture – but can be intense.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
The Shaefer’s presented their Rainwater Corp. business – a satellite branch in
LV – (water treatment/filtration/softening/ionization/fluoride removal/etc.).
Loraine: flu shots on wed. Bingo on wed. Our emer. fire planning needs a link
with Big Bear. Freda: town cleanup – 16,000 lbs. of e-waste which generated $800
for Chamber – plus many bins of tires to Mitsubhishi. Jim V.: MWA meetings and
tours. Halloween Tailgate at Market lot. Discussion re: Hesperia Resorter’s
“fabrications” – its typical lies – not facts.
Discussion re: water hauling, cost of permits, water sources, etc.
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
10/2/07
CALL TO ORDER: Jean Magee @ 5 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Chuck B.
APPROVED: 9/4/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: Insurance ($525) – Senior Citizens (20) – Chamber (35) – Balance:
1400.76
PRESENTATION/DISCUSSION:
Mojave Water Agency’s Minimal Producer Program – Pilot Study: Hydrogeologist
Lance Eckhart and Mgr. Kirby Brill.
Barstow’s suit against upstream water users started the Mojave River Basin
Adjudication in the early 90’s. All producers who pumped over 10 ac.’/yr. were
included in the “Judgment” – allocated water “rights” based on their previous 5
yr. pumping records – which were eventually “ramped-down” to 80% (or lower) of
their base annual production - (resulting in a “free production/pumping
allowance” 20% less than what they started out with – thus having to pay for
“make-up” water or obtain water rights from another party if they pumped more
than the reduced “allowance”. In addition, said producers pay fees to the
Watermaster for each acre’ pumped.
The Court’s Judgment in the mid 1990's put all pumpers who produced less than 10
ac’/yr. into the “Minimal Producer” category – with the intent of having the
Watermaster/MWA deal with their water use sometime in the future. This is not a
MWA prerogative – the Judgment requires MWA to act. MWA enacted (but has not
implemented) Ord. #11 which would require all new “minimal producer” pumpers
with a well drilled after April 2000 – to be assessed and pay at a minimum the
prevailing cost of 1 acre’ of water delivered to our basin – via property tax
billings – ultimately to be used to recharge state water into the basin from
which said water was extracted. Those with wells installed prior to that date
would be “grandfathered out” – not having to pay per the ordinance as long as
annual production remains under 10 acre’/yr. Parcels with wells could change
ownership or wells could be renovated or replaced – and not fall under the
ordinance. 193 new wells were drilled in the Este basin since April 2000. Ord.
#11 has been under court review for approximately 7 years and has not officially
been accepted by the court.
The Court’s purpose was to factor (and if necessary - manage) water consumption
from “minimals” into the overall Mojave Basin management solution - the burden
of which would otherwise continue to be imposed solely on the adjudicated
producers (those over 10 ac’/yr). It was originally estimated that the average
“minimal” pumped 1 acre’/year. The purpose of the Pilot Study is to provide a
means of better quantifying estimates based on the amount of irrigated
landscaping, orchards, small pastures, etc. Estimating water use by metering or
door to door contact is impractical, labor intensive and politically
unrealistic. Need a system which is efficient, cost effective and repeatable.
Trying to classify “minimals” in categories of amounts pumped so know how much
water is leaving the basin. Using computerized maps, census records, parcel
maps, aerial photos, etc. Idea is to develop a data base and control group –
only using meters in test areas - to determine water use relative to the amount,
density and type of landscaping – and then use that info. as basis for
estimating consumption based on regular and infra-red photos, etc. Will do
“ground truthing” in some locations where indication of increased water
consumption shows up. Monitoring won’t be required every year. MWA’s test group
includes good representation of residential and small ag. uses – a “good diverse
sample set”. “Possible” categorizations of water use could be (a) 1-2 ac’/yr. –
which probably accounts for most of the “minimals’” use; (b) 0.1-6 ac’/yr. and
(c) 6-10 ac’/yr. Question will be – will it be necessary to break it down that
specific or just come up with an average? The MWA Bd. will have to decide how
payments are made – by categories or just an average. If use is @ ½ ac’/yr –
would user be charged for 1 ac’ of water?? How much to charge for a 9 ac’/yr
use?? All review and determinations to be made at some future point, with full
public notice and participation.
The pilot test will be finished in LV in 08. The Bd. will likely “revisit” the
ordinance's April 2000 date to determine if it should be extended to a later
date – thus grandfathering out more “minimal” producers from the ordinance and
payments. If and when Ord. #11 goes into effect, it would be applied throughout
the adjudicated area, not just in LV. Bottom line – Not only does the basin have
to be managed per the Judgment, but this would also help protect existing
pumpers from the increasing amount of new pumpers and the resulting impacts on
the basin.
Questions and discussions: Septic and landscaping percolation (return flows) are
accounted for in the Judgment. A lot of infra-red might show up on photos in a
wet year – with an unfair portrayal of water use on a parcel? Photos will be
taken in July when native vegetation has mostly dried up. If a “minimal” stops
or reduces irrigation - would there be a policy to lower the “classification” if
any and reduce charges? Very likely (if a classification system is adopted).
Future recharge basin(s) – more likely on the north side of the Helendale Fault
where the greatest overdraft has occurred - would be the eventual means of
replacing groundwater with “min. producer” revenue. Some in audience expressed
opposition to fly-overs and aerial photographs of their properties – “invasion
and violation of my rights – it’s my water and no business of yours how I use
it”, etc. “We should be able to vote on it”. (Aerials of just about everything
are on websites – ie: Google, etc., and have been locally used by governmental
and private organizations successfully for decades and will continue to be
collected and used). Water haulers need wells distributed throughout the area to
best serve outlying customers. Some wells might produce over 10 ac’/yr –
therefore having to obtain “producer” status and fall under the adjudication?
“It isn’t fair to get hit with that when we are supplying water to those with
wells that have gone dry or become dysfunctional”. A horse requires 30/gal/day
in the summer – “how will you account for numbers of animals”? How account for
areas just upstream from the fault with high groundwater levels – with trees and
shrubs not irrigated – but showing up lush on aerial photos? (Would be accounted
for). How will owners be notified of this “ordinance” when they drill a well? If
a mutual water company fails, and each former customer has to drill their own
well – that shouldn’t count as a “new well” under the ordinance. (MWA would take
a reasonable approach – but it is likely that it would be cheaper to correct the
failure than to drill multiple, individual wells). Again, MWA stressed “no
meters” – the current but unimplemented ordinance will be revisited after the
pilot study is complete – the cut-off year could be increased to allow more
“grandfathering”, etc. When and if charges are in effect, would it be the
current $250/ac’ per the current cost schedule? There are a lot of policy
decisions to be made. Ernie stressed that without the adjudication and its
process – we would be in danger from increased, unregulated pumping that could
create significant harm to our community – and that MWA was a “fair-minded
agency”. MWA Bd. member Jim Ventura and Kirby Brill wrapped up by reiterating
this is a “court-ordered” requirement - and MWA is mandated to come up with a
program – trying to “do it best, fair and with minimal impact”. MWA will
consider comments and questions – this issue will be deliberated extensively
when info. is in – they will come back to LVEDA. The MWA TAC is also a good
forum.
UPDATES:
Hauled water: Linda stated the history of the recent shut-down, how the local
community participated in the resolution – but how the agencies took the credit.
The issue is the way it was handled. Haulers are suffering from numerous
regulations, the need for upgrades, costs, (ie: up to $4K to epoxy a tank) ,
discrepancies of what they hear from reg. agencies, etc. Max’s well might be
shutdown after Dec. 31 – now operating on a temp. license. Rhonda’s well has
“high fluorides”. The other current “approved” source is County’s Midway well –
which needs a card lock and meter so staff doesn’t have to be present. The High
School well was shut down due to student “safety”. Discussed who was certified,
etc. Apparently new customers of hauled water require County EHS approval – and
apparently some are not getting approval (confirmed at a subsequent MAC
meeting). Very confusing regulations and/or interpretations by County officials.
LVEDA to check on status of Midway well.
Water/sewer: Prelim. Prop. 84 filed through County Special Districts. Will know
result by spring or summer.
RR crossings: 7/17 MAC meeting – BNSF confirmed they would “not landlock” any
resident – and would be working with each one individually – if they even
continued to pursue the issue.
County land-use/fire permit process: No substantive County response to LVEDA’s
letters and e-mails.
Trash/litter: LV transfer station is now taking 4 tires per residential load
(not 9 as was previously mentioned) – at no charge. (LVEDA success!). Cannot
handle electronic wastes at landfill, but we are working on alternative. Desert
dumps need cleaning up.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: Richard presented maps and plans for proposed bowling alley and
commercial project at Custer/Hwy 18. Town cleanup date announced.
Chuck Bell, Sec. _____________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
9/4/07
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:03 PM
FLAG SALUTE:
APPROVE: 8/7/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: $2045.76 Balance
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
Report on First Mountain Bank, by Ed Lemoine, VP of Operations
Mr. Lemoine gave a summary review of the bank’s present operations. They have
four branches: two in Big Bear Lake, one in Running Springs, and one in Lucerne
Valley. Of these, Lucerne Valley Branch is second largest. He stepped through a
presentation showing data about the profitability, investments, accounts, and
other aspects of the bank’s operations.
Officers are Jack Briner, CEO; Dennis Saunders, Executive VP and CFO; Guy Bovee,
Executive VP and CCO; Ed Lemoine, Executive VP and COO; and Shirley Hartwick, VP
and Controller.
The bank’s Mission Statement:
To be the investment of choice for the shareholders
To be the employer of choice for employees
To be the bank of choice for the customers
To be the corporate citizen of choice for the community.
Regarding water haulers, FMB is making available a low interest loan at 2 ¼ % to
help them finance necessary upgrades. Jan Morosco will help them put together
the paperwork needed.
Water Hauling Update
A brief review of the status of water hauling issue in Lucerne Valley was
given—in summary, it is a train wreck waiting to happen, probably within a few
months. Too many bureaucracies, ‘way too many regulations, fees upon fees upon
fees, complicated by capricious bureaucrats creating moving targets and lots of
red tape.
The whole water issue did not arise from health issues. It was (and is) all a
matter of paperwork and fees. We as a community must decide what we want to have
happen and what we want to ask of the agencies.
BNSF’s proposed rail spur crossing closures:
No change in status or response from RR as of meeting date.
CHP Report by Officer Jeff Perez:
Jeff expressed his regrets at not being here during the water hauling crisis,
but the Victorville CHP office personnel were surprised and shocked and
thoroughly embarrassed by the way it happened. They were not notified or even
involved. Jeff said our appeal directly to the governor’s office was very
effective. Also, our community has a reputation for well-expressed, strong
opinions and lots of savvy regarding issues. We should hang together, not give
up the fight, stay close to the Daily Press and other media, and use alternative
methods to establish accountability, like posting meetings on U-Tube.
CHP offers a 2-hour drivers’ ed class for young people ages 15-20 called Street
Smart. It is usually held at the Victorville office, but they will do it out
here if we have a group of 7-10 participants.
Victor Valley College Board
Doug Shumway introduced Tony Penna, VP of Inland Energy, who is running for a
seat on the Victor Valley College Board.
Meeting adjourned 6:58 PM.
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
8/7/07
Note: Agenda totally altered to deal with the “hauled water” closures.
CALL TO ORDER: Jean Magee @ 5:10 PM
LOCATION: Park
APPROVE: 6/5/07 Minutes. (By Bd. action)
TREAS. REPORT: (e-mail from Lynn) June collection of $33 deposited Aug. 2.
Current balance: $2,045.76.
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
(Although not presented at meeting – following are updates for the record):
MWA (Minimal Producer Program) presentation: postponed to October.
Water/Sewer Project: Pre-applications made for Prop. 84/DHS funding by due date.
Should know results within 6 months.
RR crossings: At 7/17 MAC meeting - BNSF reps. indicated they would “not
landlock”
residents. They will probably meet with individual residents this summer on a
road by
road basis. They were informed that not more than 2 or possibly 3 crossings
could be
closed (if access parallel to the spur would become available in certain
locations).
Land-use permitting process/trash/litter/bins for transfer station/etc.: Still
waiting
for substantive County response to LVEDA’s letters and e-mails.
STATE DEPT. OF PUBLIC HEALTH’S SHUTDOWN OF LOCAL WATER
HAULERS:
(following is 8/6 e-mail Bell sent to LVEDA mailing list):::
This is beyond rumor - fact.
The state - not the County - did a major sweep here, Yucca Valley, JV, - maybe
the entire high desert - and shut down all but maybe 1? of our Lucerne Valley
water haulers - confiscated their trucks - locked down their access to certain
wells they said were not "certified", etc. The CHP was involved - we heard the
State "DOT" (Caltrans??) - maybe State Health and Human Services Agency also
participated. Beyond that - don't know yet what other agency. The First District
was not notified - and is trying to track down the source(s).
Understandably - hauled water recipients are up in arms. They now have little
"legal" access to water - dependant on the very few "certified" haulers -
probably not enough of them to supply summertime needs - and any good samaritan
with a tank on a truck can't take a chance to be on the road.
Although not originally on the agenda since we just heard about it - this will
become an issue at Tues's LVEDA meeting. We may have to move the meeting to the
park if it overfills the Community Center. CANCELED MWA AND THE OTHER AGENDA
ITEMS.
This is probably the dumbest, most inhumane, absurd bureaucratic screw-up to hit
this area in who knows how long. It has certainly been no secret that most water
haulers are not totally "certified". Few can afford the cost of the
requirements. These guys are not criminals. They didn't kill anyone. Didn't even
run a stop sign. No complaints from their customers re: contamination. The
typical "code enforcement" type of action (which this really is) requires a
notice - a timeframe for response and compliance - etc. The responsible action
would have been notices - with a timeframe for "certification" (ie: next winter
when water requirements are not so critical for people/livestock/evap.
coolers/irrigation/etc.). The focus should have been on the health/safety needs
of the clients. Didn't happen.
HOPEFULLY WILL GET SOME RESOLUTION BEFORE THE MEETING. STATE ASSEMB. BILL MAZE
WILL ATTEND.
MEETING NOTES:
Partial list of gov. reps. attending:
Assemby. Bill Maze - Janet Huston of State DPH - CHP reps. - Paula Nowicki and
Jesse
Flores of First Dist. - Dan Avera of County EHS.
This was a difficult meeting for minute taking. Following is the gist.
Meeting began with statements by Assemb. Bill Maze who at that time wasn’t fully
aware of ramifications. (LVEDA had informed his office Monday morning of the
situation and the need to immediately resume deliveries). In addition to
statements re:
this problem, he described current issues re: state budget/education/seniors
issues/agriculture/etc. LVEDA resumed control of meeting. About 3 hours of
statements
and questions from haulers, customers and the public - a lot of disbelief and
anger.
““Why no warning – what was the nature of the ‘complaint’ (if any) - why no
grace
period for compliance similar to typical code enforcement actions - why in the
middle of
summer - why trucks confiscated – what’s wrong with the wells that were shut
down
(quality or ‘paper’ problems?) – how do we haulers get water to our customers –
many
of whose tanks are empty – great concern for their customer’s welfare, many of
whom
have to access to water but for we haulers - how do we get legal – distinction
between
water quality vs. vehicle safety violations – what are costs of compliance – how
do we
get our trucks out of impound – blame is not the issue now – an immediate
solution is –
etc. etc.””
No real anger expressed toward CHP who had no choice but to participate in
State’s action. Most agreed vehicle safety/highway operation issues needed to be
addressed. County had not been informed prior to State’s actions. State DPH rep.
responded to some questions – would seek answers the following day – etc. Ernie
summed up with list of issues from Linda. LVEDA and haulers told State and
County
that water absolutely had to be delivered starting early the next morning. It
can’t wait.
Officials will have to get it resolved now. Neighbors are helping each other –
haulers and
others are getting bottled water to customers – but tank loads have to be
delivered now.
This is a “health/safety” issue that the State DPHealth ironically ignored in
their attempt
to deal with hauling violations. Session ended @ 8PM with small groups talking
with
officials re: problems and solutions.
(Post Note: Starting the following morning – numerous calls were made to
Governor’s office and County. Throughout week - State CDF/County Health
Dept./County Sup. staff/CHP/County Special Districts/haulers/Roadrunners/LVEDA
reps./LV Market reps./CERT members/ etc. etc. started the resolution process.
Command center set up at Community Center. State CDF-contracted water haulers
began arriving. Bottled water had earlier been made available by LV Market and
Hardware free of charge – later by other sources. Market/School/County wells
brought on line for haulers. County “emergency” declared. Numerous volunteers/HS
Football team/Church members, etc. handed out water. Volunteers, state trucks
and private “certified” haulers began deliveries of bottled and tank water.
Certification process for haulers’ wells and vehicles started. Significant media
coverage. ETC ETC).
s/ Chuck Bell, Sec._____________________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
June 5, 2007
5:00 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:06 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Bill L.
APPROVE: 5/1/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: $2012.76 Balance
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
Honorary Mayor Update:
Candidate Jean Fuqua described her fund-raising functions. (Both candidates
ultimately raised a significant amount of money for the Chamber).
New businesses in town:
”Steak Yer Claim” now open 11-9 (lunch and dinner). Received good reviews.
Water/Sewer project status:
Our current “study” – in conjunction with the project’s inclusion in MWA’s
“Regional Water Mgt. Plan”, etc. has provided the basis for an application for
Prop. 84 funding. Since the County Dept. of Special Districts (CSA 29) is the
only current entity with “water/sewer powers” – and is a “purveyor” - LVEDA’s
Water/Sewer Committee has been transferred to the LV MAC. Application will
likely proceed via the County – which will become the operator of any Rancho
Lucerne facilities if and when developed and which likely would be shared with
community systems. Some discussion re: whether the project accommodates current
and future needs (or) induces urbanization. (Info. subsequent to meeting: MWA
will fund Nolte Eng.’s drafting of the Prop. 84 application due end of July –
which would be transferred to County for finalization and filing. Decisions will
have to be made on application for the entire “downtown” project or just Phase 1
– east end). Ernie stated that only participants would pay (if not entirely
grant funded). Committee is concerned about the # of individual packaged
treatment plants being proposed by developers on their parcels. Jim Ventura
stated that Yucca Valley will likely be required to sewer the entire community
by edict of the Col. WQCB.
County land-use permit problems:
Note: The preliminary info. we heard from County and presented at this meeting -
that the lawsuit on the General Plan Update “stayed” implementation of the
General Plan and all community plans – but not the Dev. Code - was incorrect.
Subsequent info. indicates that none were “stayed” and ALL are in effect at this
time. County will soon present a Code “clean-up” package to the Bd. of Sups.
Issues are lack of staff training, inconsistent application of requirements,
varying levels of communication among departments, significant discrepancies in
Fire’s regulations, etc. Bell sent e-mail on 6/26/07 to County Planning and Fire
describing issues/problems and requesting a meeting re: solutions. Reponses to
date only indicate that they are “working on it” internally – no substantive
responses as of mid July. Land-Use Committee is ready to meet with County
Planning and Fire.
BNSF’s proposed rail spur crossing closures:
No change in status or response from RR as of meeting date. Presented to MAC
again. (Through efforts of First Dist. – Michael Orme – and our perseverance –
BNSF reps. will attend a special MAC meeting on July 17).
County responses re: LVEDA’s trash/litter letter:
Bell read excerpts from e-mail responses from Code Enf. and Solid Waste Division
– indicating their work on some of the issues. Some good initial responses and
most promising was “looking into” placement of e-waste and tire bins at our
transfer station. 3 Burrtec reps. were in attendance and participated in
discussion.
LVEDA letter re: “Ch. 8 land transfers”:
Read letter we sent to Sup. Mitzelfelt. The new policy passed the Bd. of Sups.
3-2. (Brad subsequently sent us a “thank you”).
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Jim Ventura announced that MWA will present the Minimal Producer Program’s Pilot
Study at the August LVEDA meeting. The TAC will review potential Prop. 84
projects. Discussed MWA’s 07-08 budget – the relationship between MWA1 and 2 on
our property tax bills, etc. CHP Officer Perez couldn’t make meeting – his
e-mail re: OHV enforcement in LV was read.
NO MEETING IN JULY
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
May 1, 2007
5:00 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:05 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Loraine A.
APPROVED: 4/3/07 Minutes (w/spelling corrections)
TREAS. REPORT: Bal. $2033.76 [includes +19 (previous 50-50) – 80 (Sen. Cit.
Newsletter) – 200 (RC&D dues)]
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
Sheriff Dept. presentation re: gangs and Task Force
Sgt. Chambers introduced Sheriff personnel attending. He stated that “gangs”
were not a significant problem in Lucerne Valley now – mostly “wannabes”. Det.
Dale Jentzen of the Dept.’s “Gang Unit” has been with Dept. for 27 yrs. Worked
the first gang unit in late 80’s and early 90’s. Mostly then it was white
supremacy gangs. In LV – mostly gangs of “idiots” – graffiti, etc. CHP is also
assigned to the County’s 2 gang units. Mostly taggers, passing through – hitting
market, etc. (Cover it quick, but photo and report graffiti before paint so can
be identified). Gangs like a “center of activity to show that they are around”.
“Pass through groups” steal from stores, etc. “Headhunters” (Hispanic group out
of Fontana in VValley now. Move up with parents, etc. Do not see “crimes”
associated with gangs yet here. Gang kids stick out like a sore thumb. Can
address with peer pressure. Schools are the first line of defense. There is a
big melting pot in LV – scattered residences – not good “foundation”. All
deputies and CHP being trained to deal with it. DA office is aggressive. Spill
over from VValley not real problem here – only if they can find a “target of
opportunity”. Jo brought up issue of “Vagos” coming to the Roadrunner “Toy Run”.
Other bikers left. Can’t let it be ruined – where get most of toys. Dale said
bikers do toy runs for “good PR” – generally not looking for trouble. Rivals
will still do “treaties” in public settings – prefer to avoid trouble. Told us
to let the Unit know when hold the toy run (first Sat. in Oct.). Community
apathy is the big problem. Gang crimes are mostly assaults, drugs, crimes of
opportunity ie: “beer runs”, etc. Can’t always recognize specific gang crime.
Gangs are more sophisticated now – less brutal – less gross – still dangerous.
Disenfranchised Viet. Vets often formed biker groups.
Sgt. Chambers said there are now 9 deputies assigned to the LV station. Supt.
Jim Buckely said they have been very responsive. School Principals and staff
were present
and commented. The Elem. School monitors gang “starts”. Due to boredom, “no
sense
of belonging”, loose family ties. Need to keep kids from those situations. Or
the “gang”
becomes “family”. (got to belong to something). Elem and Mid. School now has
“after-school program’ til 6pm. 41 attending after only 7 days of the program.
High % of latchkey kids – major factor in gangs. Family breakdown is major
cause. A small community can provide preventative measures.
Sgt. Chambers commented on OHV trespass. The Dept. issued 40-50 citations on 1
day in Phelan. Started 4-6 weeks ago. “Saturation” at problem areas. The Dept.
needs OHV trespass/nuisance calls to log in the location to saturate later – but
m/c disturbance call by itself is a low priority – can’t catch them in a “unit”
– ties up law enf. from more significant crimes. So can’t always respond. But
vandalism is different.
Rancho Lucerne Project Update:
Per Jean: Apparently County and developer agreed to have County Special
Districts take over the water/sewer system after built – transfer of developer’s
water rights to the
project – and the tentative map was approved.
Water/Sewer project update:
MWA Bd. met re: study. Supportive. Good source of funding might be Prop. 84 –
County would probably have to be applicant. MWA would support – but has its own
projects to apply for. Marie to help obtain MDRC&D help with grants, etc.
Rail Spur crossing closures:
Blaine, Ben, Jean, Michael Orme and Chuck drove segment from Crystal Creek to
High Rd. Came to same conclusion that Bill Lembright did in his analysis – there
might be 2 – possible 3 closures that wouldn’t land-lock residents – but only if
some access parallel to the spur was granted. The other crossings will have to
remain open due to washes and terrain limiting east-west access. Michael
provided aerial photos which were helpful. No RR response yet.
Letter to County re: trash and litter:
Bell drafted letter based on last meeting’s discussion – members voted to send.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Town “clean-up” filled 10 tire and 4 furniture bins. Jo asked schools to provide
“news” for the community newsletter. Jan M. and Jeff (CHP) announced “Start
Smart” (young drivers program) at HS. Ages 15-20. CHP participated in a “DUI”
mock accident at HS.
ADJOURNED: @7 PM
C. Bell, Sec.
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
April 4, 2007
5:00 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:10 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Richard Selby
APPROVED: 3/6/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: No Report (Treas. absent with excuse). Authorized $200 dues to
the Mojave Desert RC and D (who can help us with grants for our water/sewer
project) and $20 filing fee to Sec. of State for “Statement of Info.” Rcd. $14
from 50-50 + 5 donation for total of $19.
PRESENTATION/DISCUSSIONS:
New CHP Rep. Jeff Perez – Public Affairs – VV Office:
Jeff is replacing Steve White and will try to attend our meetings. His report:
Larry Allen is the current 1 CHP officer assigned to LV. The Dept. would like to
have 3 officers assigned here. CHP is asking Caltrans for more speed limit
signs. Bell to send (sent) him list of our road projects submitted to SANBAG/Caltrans/County
– emphasizing safety issues/projects. He wants to know what “we need” –
including enforcement of litter regs. on both state and county roads. If we
witness trash blowing out of vehicles – get license and forward to CHP.
County Dept. of Solid Waste Mgt. – Burtec (County contractor waste hauler) –
County Code Enforcement:
PROBLEMS: Trash blowing out of Burtec's dumpster trucks and transfer trailers.
Dumpsters with no lids or lids not utilized by residents. Trash bags left out
for pickup - scattered from dogs/wind/etc. Enclosures required? Trash blowing
out of private vehicles on way to transfer station - loads not covered or
secured per ordinance. Using "work-releasers" to help clean up roadside and
adjacent litter. (Local groups have "adopted" 8-10 miles of Hwy 18 - have had
numerous clean-ups - but can't keep up with the incessant volume of litter. Same
problem on Hwy 247 and County roads). Tremendous amount of illegal dumping
throughout valley. (Status of on-going clean-up efforts).
DISCUSSION:
Bill Arlington – Burtec Hauling Division – in charge of our region – including
Barstow/Crestline/VV: Kathleen Bingham and Rex Richardson – County solid Waste
Programs. Sherry Rotruck – Code Enf. (We appreciated their participation).
Non-bagged garbage will occasionally blow out of Burtec dumpster haul trucks and
transfer trailers – even when tarped. We need to “bag” garbage. LV has approx.
3500 residences. 571 have manual curb service. 415 have dumpsters. 76 commercial
clients. Costs $54/3 months for a dumpster. At @ $17/mo – it is “cheaper than
self hauling to dump”. Our property tax’s land-use fees go for landfills and
transfer stations even if we subscribe to Burtec’s pickups. With Burtec service,
can schedule 2 “bulky item” pickups/yr – 5 items each. A significant % of
clients “do not pay” their bills. Some clients request dumpsters with no lids or
don’t close them – allowing wind and ravens to scatter trash. Dogs, wind and
ravens scatter non-enclosed trash bags left for pickup. There might be a County
EHS ordinance requiring containers with tight-fitting lids even for bagged
trash? Bags and trash fall out of over-loaded dumpsters onto truck cabs, etc.
when being loaded. Complaints about Burtec trucks’ fast approaches and hard
stops between pickups – tearing up dirt roads, noise, etc
“Burtec needs to advertise more”. It was stated that mandatory service would
“solve problem”. This assertion was debated. LV residences are too dispersed,
too many non-maintained dirt roads tearing up Burtec equipment, goes against our
“do it yourself” culture, politically difficult, etc. Mandatory collection is
easier done in a higher density urban setting.
Current County ordinance makes rental owners responsible to have trash picked
up. Commercial properties and “planned developments” require trash enclosures –
but not required for individual residences. All of Burtec’s loads go to (mostly)
the VV County landfill where only minimal recycling occurs. Our LV transfer
station takes metal/cardboard/paper/tin/glass/alum./etc. and our station manager
works very well with LV resident dumpers. County unincorporated region has 49%
waste diversion. Difficult to force recycling til we urbanize more. Hesperia has
the highest diversion rate in desert area.
Partial solutions could include: Tire bins placed at transfer station for direct
hauling to Mitsubishi Cement for burning in kilns (to alleviate increasing tire
dumping in desert). Problems would be the permits required, state requirements
for a manifest to haul more than 10 tires at a time, etc. Bins at transfer
stations for electronics (TV’s, computers, etc.) which are also showing up in
illegal dumps. But requires special haz. waste handling from Fire Dept. County
Solid Waste staff not currently allowed to handle said wastes. Possible
“drop-off” location in town for said wastes (other than the current once/year
County pick-up and the twice/year “town clean-up” collections). LVEDA members
currently volunteer for approx 1 drop-off/every 2 months for (only) waste
oil/anti-freeze/latex paint/batteries. 2 camera locations are in place in desert
region to detect illegal remote dumping – to be alternated around various key
sites. Sheriff choppers now have night vision which might help. Code Enf. is
working on cleaning up extensive dumps in Lucerne Dry Lake area. At LVEDA’s
request, Field Rep. Robert Eland is working on a major town litter clean-up
along highway and adjacent locations, using work-release prisoners, etc. (Trash
and litter – from sources described above – is too much for our volunteers to
handle along our “Adopt-A Highway” road segments).
LVEDA opinion?::: Bottom-line problem: The State’s onerous and unnecessary
restrictions on handling stuff that’s in every home and garage – combined with
the County’s reliance on a fee-based system that reduced or eliminated general
public funding historically allocated to waste disposal programs - combined with
our particular demographics induced by our relative affordability – our rural
geographics with endless dirt roads and remote dumping sites ----- all
contribute to the problem. The irony is that more public subsidy of these
services and provisions for easier and more accessible disposal of tires,
e-waste, etc. could actually reduce the overall public $ required to support
illegal site clean-ups. LVEDA to decide if it wants to send letter or if it
would do any good.
Update on rail spur crossing closures:
Field Rep. Robert Eland is setting up meeting with BNSF in SB. (Later he pledged
to have a meeting with BNSF in LV or Hesperia) – and is getting better maps,
aerials, etc. BLM wants to participate – is concerned about the crossing
closures of its “open” routes across the spur. Rumor has it that USFS doesn’t
care (probably true).
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Bell (with Marie’s help) sent LVEDA letter to USFS re: its current route
designation process. (Included was a statement requesting USFS to defend keeping
its designated “Grapevine Cyn. route” over the rail spur “open” – which BNSF
wants to close).
CDF finally provided a short window for allowed burning (with permit from County
Fire). Might not last long due to near-record if not record dry year.
Jim Ventura – our MWA rep.: Good lobbying by MWA has resulted (after an initial
denial) in $25 mil. from state Prop. 50 Bond Act. Will be used for major
recharge projects, invasive weed eradication/water conservation/etc. Major
victory for our area. Jim also discussed a major issue – how a non-financial
participant in the funding for the existing Morongo Pipeline (mainly us) can buy
or “rent” capacity if and when we need it to convey state water for future
recharge into our basin. The likely scenario (if and when necessary in the
future and of course with a recharge basin{s}) - would be LV “renting” capacity
in the pipeline during surplus water years for recharge during non-peak periods
when capacity is available. This would have to be worked out with the current
pipeline participants.
Jean Morgan (School Bd.) and Larry Denniston (LV School Dist. staff) informed us
of the “After School” program now in place at the Elem. School - its various
services, etc. Note: LVEDA lobbied for this many years ago.
FUTURE MEETINGS:
Members agreed to not meet July 3 due to the July 4th. holiday. It is better to
drop a meeting than to keep changing dates. (See Agenda for list of future
meetings).
ADJOURNED: @ 7:05 PM C. Bell, Sec. ____________ date: __________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
March 6, 2007
5:00 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:05 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Bill Lembright
APPROVE 3/6/07 MINUTES:
TRES. REPORT: Balance: $2222.76. 50-50: $41 (1/2 to LVEDA).
PRESENTATION/DISCUSSIONS:
Scott Lasley – habitat restoration on north slope and climate issues:
(Presentation handout included in attachment). Bio resource contractor for mines
which all are working towards a more balanced environment. This is a “Silver
Sage” presentation – reflecting its views. Listed the multiple commodities
produced from limestone. Discussed CO2 emissions, global warming, our “carbon
footprints” (pounds of carbon we emit, carbon sequestration, etc. Discussed
measures the mining firms are taking. Just 4 of the new tech. light bulbs can
save up to 1500 lbs. of carbon, but not yet cost efficient. Plants and trees
sequester carbon (need CO2 for photosynthesis – converts to oxygen). Most
efficient are the perennial conifers – Aleppo and Eldirica (Mondale) pines –
130% more efficient than the deciduous trees. Poplars (cottonwoods, etc.), even
though deciduous, are good too, but not water efficient. (Conifers emit
hydrocarbons, a precursor to ozone, etc. – a tradeoff). Creosote outperforms
other shrubs for absorbing CO2. To reduce visual contrasts - OMYA (and other
firms) have sprayed limestone slag with an oxidizing agent to get a brownish
“desert varnish” tone, but lightens up and has to be repeated. Revegetation
restoration enhanced 56% by planting native plants in strips – better for
natural seed spread to outlying areas. One method compacts seed and straw into
soil for better germination and soil stability, but straw can also draw moisture
out of soil – but mostly after germination. Trying to introduce pinyon pine and
other climax species for diversity, not just pioneering plants. Experimenting
with adding fungi to native seed – with plots with and without fungi – with and
without irrigation, etc. Also talked about big horn guzzlers and benefits.
Doug Shumway/Neville Slade – VV College “Sustainability” project and discussion
re: “LV as a “sustainable community”.
Intent is create a “balance” among business/jobs – environment – community. Keep
everything functioning the best we can – taking it all into account. “Mitigate”
by using principle of “sustainable”. (This program adopted by US Borax).
Includes recycling – energy conservation – water conservation – not “clearing”
lots, etc. Local mine firms adopting the “stewardship” ethic – getting advice
from VVC, etc. Global warming emphasis is “taking our minds off other important
environmental and sustainability issues”. Credited LVEDA’s dealing with
important issues related to “sustainability” – community’s efforts toward rural
planning, etc. LVHS involved in stewardship projects (bighorn sheep – strawbale
construction – replacing some lawn area in front with more native and less
water-consumptive landscaping, etc.). “We are moving toward sustainability
through our current actions”.
Update on rail spur crossing closures
Chuck summarized issues – joint LVEDA/MAC letter to County – trying to get a
meeting through the First District – then one in LV where residents can go over
maps with RR. Field Rep. Robert Eland said they we working on a meeting w/RR.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
March 17 (full County) haz. waste collection. Work with Watermaster to ward off
more loss of water rights. Pete L. and Diane H. “coming along” after surgeries.
Shirley Althide and Jean Fuqua running for “honorary mayor” – free dinner Sat.
Mar 17 -Chamber fundraiser. Pat P. asked re: talk of a prison coming to LV –
apparently just a rumor. Marie B. announced USFS’ latest route
designation/closure project – will draft a letter to Chuck for a LVEDA response
(done – see attachment). BLM Advisory Council meeting Sat. in Barstow. Sgt.
Chambers discussed use of “work releasers” for community projects. Issue of burn
prohibitions brought up.
FUTURE MEETINGS:
(See agenda). Try to get County Solid Waste/Burtec/Code Enf. for next meeting.
ADJOURNED: @ 6:50 PM
C. Bell, Sec. ____________ date: _________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
February 6, 2007
5:00 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:10 PM – C. Center
FLAG SALUTE: J L
APPROVE: 1/2/07 Minutes
TREAS. REPORT: Balance - $2181.76. 50-50: $81. Winner was Scott L. ($40.50).
ANNOUNCE OFFICERS ELECTED AT 2/6/07 BD. MEETING: Re-elected current officers:
Pres. Jean Magee – Sec. Chuck Bell – Treas. Lynn Kraemer
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
County First District Supervisor – Brad Mitzelfelt
Introduced by Field Rep. Robert Eland. Brad presented his background/experience.
Today the Bd. of Sups. approved the Gang Injunction Unit for the DA’s Office –
(part of the larger County gang enf. effort). $ ½ mil. for staffing, etc. from
Prop. 172 sales tax revenue. Will be able to enforce loitering/turf
problems/etc. – both in cities and unincorporated areas. Violation will be a
“crime”. Successful in other jurisdictions. Re: ID theft – our county is a close
2nd. to Phoenix region as the worst in nation. He will decide in July whether to
run for next term in 2 years. Congress has not been willing to deal with
cumbersome environmental regs./Endangered Species Act requirements/etc. Makes
the Quad State Coalition more important (multi counties in 4 states dealing with
tortoise, public land, etc. issues). Brad is Vice Chair. Quad State has been
granted full intervener status on the litigation against the West Mojave Plan.
Even with the County’s differences with BLM on some WMP requirements, it is
still good plan that needs defending. If BLM stipulates to the enviro. suit
adverse to the County’s interest (as it has in previous suits) – County and Quad
State will be in a position to intervene. Brad also is Chair of the Public Land
Steering Committee of the National Assoc. of Counties – trying to restore lost
revenue to counties for public land related issues.
His major focus: master plan for drainage facilities – roads – interchanges –
illegal dumping – coordination with fed. agencies on joint issues – OHV
enforcement – our RR crossing issue – health/safety (law enf./fire) - etc. The
Bd. approved $50,000 (via Risk Mgt.) for new (satellite feed) equipment for our
TV Translator to restore stations lost to vandalism and outdated equipment –
including added security features. Bd. approved $254,000 from Prop. 40 for
improvements to the new cemetery (subject to state approval). Also got $90,000
as reimbursement to County for the First Dist’s. previous advancement for the
High School ballfield lights. He remarked on how relatively easy LV is to work
with because we are such a “self-sufficient community” – taking care of most of
our own issues. LVEDA recently re-submitted to his office copies of our road
request list – RR crossing letter – the MAC’s cell tower letter – etc. Brad’s
presentation was short and well received.
County District Atty. Investigator – Stephen Cunningham (ID Theft)
Sgt. Blaine Chambers introduced the law enforcement personnel attending –
including Capt. Stalnaker from the VV Station. Mostly everything is moved to the
new LV Substation - with a full time receptionist – ability to keep local files
in town – etc.
Bob Smith introduced Mr. Cunningham after informing us that as representative of
Assemb. Bill Maze – he held a “mobile office” today at the park office. Informed
us of Bill Maze’s Committee assignments (water/parks – budget sub committee –
business and profession co. – foster care – etc.).
Following is info. provided by Mr. Cunningham and audience:
PROBLEM:
SB County experiencing second highest rate of ID theft in nation – just under
Phoenix region. ID theft consists of names - Soc. Sec. #s – drivers lic. # -
credit cards and #’s – bank account info. – etc. Magnetic strips on cards
contains all relevant data. Hard to catch thieves who often have multiple
identities. Ties in with elder abuse – mostly by children and care providers.
Accounts dry up before they die. Banks now must report this elder (financial)
abuse. Stolen pre-paid phone cards difficult to track. #s “spread like
wildfire”. Any problems with your account should be reported to local law. enf.
“Need a report and #”. Banks aren’t always helpful. After stolen – obtain police
report – notify credit companies, bureaus, etc. Get your own bank statement
since banks can’t release it to even other institutions – but can release info.
to law enf. “with your permission”. A teller can “stop the card” immediately.
Some?? financial institutions will reimburse losses – conduct their own
investigations, but will not seek criminal prosecution. But usually will work
with law enf. First Mt. Bank in LV absorbed $3080 loss this past year? in ATM
theft. Banks are required to reimburse. Majority of ID theft involves drugs.
Easy to steal info. from mailboxes, trash, etc. Restaurant waiters etc. can use
a pocket scanner – double scan your card – can download multiple cards in a
short time. Can happen when your card is taken for a transaction out of your
view.
PREVENTION:
Use paper shredder. Do not give personal info. over phone unless you trust the
source or initiate the call. Any personal data on computer is vulnerable. Don’t
carry Soc. Sec. card in wallet – memorize #. Just carry 1 credit card. Credit
and debit transactions can be done with 1 card. Keep wallets/purses/packs close
to body. Tie to shopping carts. Businesses should ask for ID. Subscribe to a
credit monitoring service so can be notified immediately if someone else makes a
transaction – get reports. Put a “cap” on credit amount. “Cap” the number of
consecutive transactions allowed on a card within a specific time period in
order to trigger an automatic “stop” by the credit company. Use prepaid cards
with $ limits for internet purchases. Only use 1 card – tied to 1 checking acct.
for on-line purchases. Write on back of card – “require photo ID”. Keep list of
all card and account #s in safe. Do not return motel key cards since they have
acct. info. on them???
Update on proposed rail spur crossing closures
Bell announced new contact (thanks to Blaine) – Lena Kent of BNSF Public Affairs
office in SB. She has pledged to help work this out – do a local workshop, etc.
Deborah will send her copy of video of BNSF’s (not so successful) presentation
at previous MAC meeting. We are looking for phone #s and e-mails for residents
south of the tracks.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Pending Econ. Summit in VV. Code Enforcement currently acting on major illegal
dumps on numerous acres south of Lucerne Dry Lake/north of Rancho Lucerne
property. Jim Ventura announced the good news that MWA – thanks to good lobbying
- is back on the (first round) Prop. 40 list for major $ for various projects.
Freda announced April 27-28 town cleanup (tires/furniture/metal – NO TRASH).
Chamber/Roadrunner installation dinner Sat. night. Bingo. Deborah said Lion’s
Club will host a circus April 23. Lorraine reported that Senior Center ceiling
was being replaced along with bottom sections of walls (due to fire sprinkler
leak during freeze) – and that CSA 29 Manager Gerry OReilly was working closely
in cooperation with the Seniors. Thanks to CSA 29 for new clock in c. center.
FUTURE MEETINGS:
Quick review of list (see agenda). Scott Lasley for March. Try and get PO at a
meeting.
ADJOURNED: @7:10 PM
C. Bell, Sec. __________________ date: __________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
January 2, 2007
5:00 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:05 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Sgt. Blaine Chambers
APPROVE MINUTES: 12/5/06
TREAS. REPORT: (50-50 drawing - $43 in pot – $21.50 donated back to LVEDA by
Nancy Klatzache (sp?) AND THANK YOU + $5 from EG). Prior balance: $2,133.76
which includes $120 added to balance to conform to bank statement.
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
Board Election:
Moved, second, unan. – elect slate - 3 nominees presented last meeting for 3
vacancies: Jean Magee/Bob McDougall/Ernie Gommel (replacing out-going B. Veale).
Update on proposed rail spur crossing closures – LVEDA’s role:
Bell summarized status. Sgt. Chambers described his drive along spur – GPSing
crossing locations – also provided map to Bell. All current crossings between
Crystal Creek Rd. in LV to Milpas in AV are still open. Map indicates that RR
wants to close all crossings except the County-maintained Crystal Creek/High/Milpas
Rds. Blaine talked w/BNSF law enf. officer – they will probably not landlock
residents – will need to provide alternate access? Health/safety is compromised
by taking out needed crossings. Fire and Sheriff will “appeal” the removal of
critical crossings. Per Capt.Ben Van Wyk of Fire: there are 50+ structures south
of track that would be affected. Doug Shumway of Mitsubishi is helping to
research how RR r/w was granted – could be important to negotiations. Per
discussion: A RS 2477 filing by County could (over long-term) save some
crossings. Important to find oldest topo maps with roads shown. Best solution is
for County to take over easements and maintenance of crossings – alleviating
need for expensive and tenuous private permits and insurance requirements. Pete
L. said that BNSF is still liable for downstream damage from diverted run-off
due to work on spur r/w.
Per approval at 12/19/06 MAC meeting – Bell sent following letter from MAC and
LVEDA:
To: First District
From: Lucerne Valley MAC and Lucerne Valley Economic Development Assoc.(LVEDA)
Date: 12/22/06
Re: Proposed Closures - BNSF Rail Spur Crossings
At its 12/5/06 meeting, with Bob Smith in attendance, LVEDA members provided
recommendations for the MAC's consideration. The MAC's 12/19 meeting was
attended by numerous affected residents living south of the rail spur, and
included a presentation by BNSF representatives (which unfortunately was focused
on "how difficult it was to obtain a permit to cross the spur" - and not on the
pertinent issue: which crossings were proposed to be closed or left open - some
of which might be negotiable). BNSF representatives left the meeting with
numerous questions unanswered. Captain Ben Van Wyk of the Lucerne Valley Fire
Station and Sgt. Blaine Chambers of our Sheriff Dept. Substation also attended,
providing insight on their involvement in this very critical issue.
The MAC asked me (Chuck Bell, LVEDA Sec. - 760 964 3118) to submit the following
MAC/LVEDA position statement to the First District for its on-going negotiations
with BNSF.
Note: The attachment re: the CPUC's findings on the Summit Truck Trail crossing
in Oak Hills is critical to this matter. (Did the County file within the 120 day
timeframe?). That outcome has bearing on this matter.
Info. from our research and meeting notes: The rail spur was originally
constructed in the 1950's in order to transport limestone to Kaiser Steel in
Fontana. It is currently used to haul coal to Mitsubishi Cement - and to a
lessor extent - cement and limestone out from Mitsubishi, Specialty Minerals and
Omya. According to what we understand from BNSF's very cursory presentation: its
right/of/way was granted per 1884 land grants? It is considered "private
property", with a total 100' right of way (50' each side of track centerline).
Crossings or "rights to cross" must be "procured by residents" at a cost of
$350/resident. Permits are not guaranteed and may take a long period to process.
1. We understand BNSF's and CPUC's concern re: "excessive/redundant" crossings
relative to its increased liability. However the 2 to 3 round-trips/week at the
slow speeds pose significantly less "hazard" than many other crossings on other
spurs and BNSF mainlines with multiple crossings. From a safety perspective,
crossings on this spur pose insignificant accident and liability potential.
Note: BNSF indicated it has no records of a train/vehicle accident on this spur.
2. BNSF cannot and must not "land-lock" residents nor deny legal access to BLM/USFS
public lands. (see below).
3. LV Fire's and Sheriff's emergency (health/safety) access requirements must be
met.
4. Elimination of any crossings must be compensated by allowing alternative
access - even if along the rail spur's parallel road.
5. Provide full public and land-owner notification of any proposed closures.
Post notices on all crossings proposed to remain "open" and "to be closed" (w/BNSF
contact info.)
6. BNSF informed us that they are exempt from a filing of "prescriptive rights"
to "legalize" use of a crossing. Documents included (below) seem to indicate
otherwise.
7. County should determine if a RS 2477 filing is a viable option (ask First
District to pursue with County's Public Land Consutant Gerry Hillier - and
County Counsel).
8. Per Bob Smith: We should list and map the crossings absolutely critical for
adequate circulation/access. (Note: BNSF did not provide a map of proposed
closures at the MAC meeting. Sgt. Blaine Chambers has since obtained and
provided a map - and recently performed a field check of the crossing locations
-see attachment).
9. Consult with BLM/USFS/Calif. DFG/etc. re: their access needs and
requirements. (LVEDA notified BLM).
10. The County has (we assume) granted permits for residential construction
south of the rail spur. Said permits must have been based on "legal access" to
said parcels which cannot be land-locked. Therefore, we request that the County
obtain and maintain public right-of-way on critical rail crossings in order to
eliminate the need for residents to file for individual permits. Grant funding
may be available for this purpose.
11. We request County Counsel to review and report on the attached CPUC
decisions.
12. We request involvement of MAC and LVEDA representatives in the negotiations.
(Included maps and related PUC cases).
Roundtable discussion – Suggested future meetings:
Feb. - County DA’s Office re: identity theft (per Bob Smith) / March – Litter
and trash workshop with County and Burtec? / April or May - MWA Minimal Producer
Program? / Improvements to County permit process relative to General Plan Update
/ Fire Code amendments for rural unincorporated areas / Pros and cons of forming
a CSD / Application for a water/sewer grant – is it time – is there land owner
support - and who does it? / Implications of Victor Valley growth on LV? / etc.
etc. etc. (Per Richard Selby – added Col. WQCB presentation re: support for
water/sewer project, septic issues, etc.).
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Sgt. Chambers: Final work being done and moving to new Substation in @ 2 weeks
(rehabbed old post office building and great job – owner to be commended). Glen
Helen inmates to do landscaping. Full-time receptionist again. Now will be able
to maintain station’s own files – save trips to VV. Received $80,000 for
“personnel” from OHV trespass grant he applied for. Currently have 2 4x4 quads.
Need 2 bikes and a tow vehicle for better enforcement. County’s ordinance
requires owner’s written permission to ride on said property. Makes enforcement
easier.
CHP Officer Steve White: Received fed. grant through the state – combined with
“super grant” - for extra patrol (120 hrs./month in January) on Hwys 18 and 247
due to increasing fatalities. West end of Hwy 18 has been a recent problem.
Focus on speeding/dangerous passing/seat belts/etc. In his division – during
holiday season accidents were down – DUI arrests up 40%. Statewide – accidents
are down 6-8%.
ADJOURNED: @7:05 PM
C. Bell, Sec. _________________
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
December 5, 2006
5:05 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:05 PM
FLAG SALUTE: Jean Morgan
APPROVE 11/7/06 MINUTES: (approved)
TREAS. REPORT: Tried 50-50 drawing for first time - $31 to account - $31 to
winner George Yablonski. (was well-attended meeting – LVEDA’s share about the
same as previous average – will continue if it works out). Lynn absent – no
report.
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
Board Member Nominations:
3 vacancies – 3 nominations: (Jean Magee/Bob McDougall/Ernie Gommel). Election
in Jan.
LVEDA policy re: BNSF’s (Santa Fe’s) proposed closures of rail spur crossings –
recommendations to LV MAC:
Chuck explained issues and presented draft recommendations. LVEDA members
submitted following to the MAC – to be presented at its 12/19 meeting:
1. Understand BNSF's concern re: "excessive/redundant" crossings relative to its
increased liability - however the 2 to 3 round-trips/week at the slow speeds
pose significantly less "hazard" than many other crossings on the spur and BNSF
mainlines with multiple crossings.
2. RR cannot and must not "land-lock" residents nor deny legal access to BLM/USFS
public lands. (see below).
3. LV Fire's and Sheriff's emergency (health/safety) access requirements must be
met.
4. Elimination of any crossings must be compensated for legitimate users by
allowing alternative access - even if along the rail spur's parallel road.
5. Provide full public and land-owner notification for any proposed closures.
Post notices on all crossings proposed to remain "open" and "to be closed" (w/BNSF
phone #).
6. A filing of "prescriptive rights" to "legalize" use of a crossing might not
be successful.
7. County should determine if a RS 2477 filing is a viable option (ask First
District to pursue with County Counsel).
8. Per Bob Smith: We should list and map the crossings absolutely critical for
adequate circulation/access.
9. Consult with BLM/USFS/Calif. DFG/etc. re: their access needs and
requirements.
Water/Sewer Study – update and MAC involvement
Nolte’s (engineer’s) study required some updates and corrections. Almost
complete. Previous article in Leader from Sup. Bill Postmus indicated that the
First District would help in obtaining funds for the project if affected
land-owners concurred. Bob Smith informed us it was important for us to assure
that Bill’s replacement honor said commitment. The east portion of the Study
Area would most likely be the first phase – but would have to be built to
accommodate west side flows in later phase. A “pay back” might be required. The
shopping Center and CSA 29 facilities have sufficient water storage, but
marginal percolation for Laundromat wastewater – and would greatly benefit from
a sewer system. The Vista Tract may have a well problem. The School District has
expressed interest in both a water/sewer system. The project would be important
to the entire community – not just the businesses. SCE’s pending undergrounding
of its overhead lines would likely be finished before any installation of
water/sewer lines – but has stated it would not want water/sewer lines in the
same trench anyway.
Agreed to present to MAC – per statement in our 11/7/06 minutes: “Discussed
LVEDA’s continued role (if any) in a possible water/sewer project. Property
owners who would benefit (and assume loans if not entirely grant funded) will
have to help “carry the ball”. It is really up to them. Motion approved for
LVEDA to present the study to MAC – determine its interest – with opportunity to
utilize its more direct connection to Supervisor’s office which could help with
funding – possibly include LVEDA reps. on its (currently inactive) water/sewer
committee. Item will be on 12/19 MAC agenda.”
Update on our Hwy 18/247 requested projects:
Outcomes of 4/21/06 meeting w/Caltrans/SANBAG/County Trans. – and 11/17/06
MT/DES SANBAG (agenda item): (see 5/2/06 e-mail re: history and status of
projects listed below):
(Request from the Lucerne Valley Economic Development Association - LVEDA):::
FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO HWYS 18 AND 247 TO AND THROUGH LUCERNE VALLEY MAY HINGE
ON THE "HIGH DESERT CORRIDOR PROJECT" (MAJOR PLANNED HIGHWAY FROM
LANCASTER/PALMDALE AREA TO AND THROUGH APPLE VALLEY). THE "PLANNING" FOR THIS
PROJECT CURRENTLY ENDS IN E. APPLE VALLEY - WITHOUT REGARD TO THE INCREASED
TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THIS HIGHWAY THAT WILL CONTINUE EAST THROUGH HWY 18 IN
LUCERNE VALLEY - AND EAST/SOUTH TO THE I-10 VIA HWYS 247 AND 62. IN ORDER TO
OBTAIN FUNDING FOR THESE EASTERN SEGMENTS, LVEDA IS REQUESTING CALTRANS TO
PERFORM A "REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT STUDY"(?)
Response from Dan Kopulsky – Caltrans
We not believe a RSTIS Study is feasible for this highway corridor. We will
support you, LVEDA, Flamingo Heights, and Yucca Valley as much as possible on
the proposed SHOPP projects on both SR-18 and SR-247. You may also want to
discuss your proposal with your local elected official (County Supervisor
Postmus) and elicited his opinion.
We would be willing to meet with you to discuss your concerns for that corridor,
if you so desire.
LVEDA’s reply
We were informed that a RSTIS Study was the best mechanism to deal with both
current problems and the future increased traffic generated by the High
Desert Corridor project. We are willing to work on whatever is the best
solution, but recent meetings with Caltrans have not been very productive.
Response inadequate: It will have to be part of a “plan” to be institutionalized
and funded.
SR 18
1. 1 mile passing lane (4 lanes) and realignment from mile 80-81
WAS A SHOPP PROJECT. LOST FUNDING. RESCOPE AS A “SAFETY PROJECT” ONLY. ADT IS
NOT ISSUE NOW, BUT UNSAFE PASSING AND BUNCHED TRAFFIC IS – FOCUS TO BE ON TURN
POCKETS. We need to know process for “safety projects” and turn pockets must be
“immediate” focus.
2. Status of left turn pocket at High Rd.
INITIALLY FUNDED BUT CALTRANS PULLED FUNDING DURING STATE’S BUDGET CRISIS. ENV.
AND PLANNING DONE. BEST WE CAN DO NOW - CALTRANS "COMMITTED" TO EARLY 07.
3. Resurface west bound lane between Lucerne Valley and Apple Valley - damaged
by heavy truck traffic?
MAINTENANCE PROJECT - DAN SENT NAME AND # OF CONTACT. SOME WORK DONE.
4. Left turn pockets at Custer and Tradepost Rds. - right turn lane at Highland
Rd. - all 3 projects in conjunction with County Trans.?
CALTRANS IS IN PROCESS OF UPDATING THE RTE 18 CONCEPT REPORT RELATIVE TO THE LV
COMMUNITY PLAN AND THESE PROJECTS (@NOV. 06?). (CURRENT PLAN PER COUNTY: COUNTY
DOES 1, CALTRANS THE REST. TO BE NEGOTIATED? DO W/ $230,000 CURRENTLY IN ROAD
FEE ACCOUNT - REMAINDER VIA GAS TAX FUNDING? COULD COST $50,000 EACH. NOT
SUFFICIENT $ NOW. COUNTY FEE PLANS MAY NOT BE REGIONALIZED - LV PLAN MAY REMAIN
IN PLACE – LOCAL FEE COULD INCREASE. COUNTY TO MEET RE: ROAD FEE PLANS). WHEN
CONCEPT PLAN FINISHED – COUNTY WILL NEED TO REVIEW IT RELATIVE TO THE LV PLAN.
LVEDA will have to influence a Caltrans/County resolution!
5. Left turn pocket at Kendall? (see #4 above).
(INCLUDED IN ABOVE)
6. Caltrans' plans for the ultimate R/W and number of lanes
4 LANES PLUS TURN POCKETS (NOT A CENTER "5TH" LANE). ROUTE CONCEPT REPORT BEING
UPDATED. APPROX. 100' TOTAL R/W (80 - 84' SHOULDER TO SHOULDER)? NOTE: PER
DISCUSSION ON INCREASING ACCESS POINTS ALONG HWY 18 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR (WITH
NUMEROUS SMALL PARCELS YET TO BE DEVELOPED) - SANBAG STRONGLY RECOMMENDS THE
POLICY OF "SHARED AND/OR ALTERNATIVE ACCESS" VIA A CIRCULATION PLAN. (INCLUDED
IN COUNTY GEN. PLAN AND DEV. CODE. GOAL IS TO KEEP STATE HWY FREE FLOWING AS
POSSIBLE.
ADDED PROJECT:
7. Re-align 247(Crystal Creek)/18 intersection to 90 degree approaches – add 4
way stop.
INTERIM: RERDUCE WEST BOUND SPEED LIMIT TO 45? (DONE????).
SR 247
1. Flashing yellow beacon on north and south portions of SR 247 at the
Elementary School
DAN TO CONFER W/HAISSAM RE: STATUS. (No response) Gary Green (909 383 4825) is
new Caltrans contact. School Supt. Jim Buckley and Bell made strong requests at
11/17/06 meeting. District could possibly purchase flasher – and Caltrans
install. Emphasis should be on south lane to warn trucks etc. since school is
first major “urban” development after 35 miles of open road from Barstow.
Alternatives such as larger sign/speed bumps are not adequate.
2. Lower the speed limit on SR 247 (Old Woman Springs Rd.) east of the 4-way
stop (ie: from 65 to 55 mph from the fire station to Camprock Rd.).
NUMEROUS R/L TURN MOVEMENTS ON THIS STRETCH. WAS POSTED 65 MPH JUST EAST OF FIRE
STATION LONG AFTER CALTRANS CHANGED TO 55. (FINALLY DONE @ 9/06). (QUESTION
REMAINS AS TO REQUIREMENT FOR FULL STRETCH OF A HWY TO BE ALL POSTED THE SAME
SPEED LIMIT)?
3. Caltrans has denied a number of requests for left-turn pockets east of the
4-way stop at Post Office, Midway and Medanos Rds. - and a right turn lane at
Visalia Rd
NO CURRENT PLANS. PER SANBAG - “COUNTY TO LOOK INTO DOING A CIRCULATION STUDY
FOR LV.” POSSIBLY FOCUS ON ONE MAJOR POCKET. INCLUDED AS A GOAL IN LV PLAN.
(Note: L and R turn pockets will become critical as traffic increases -
especially when High Des. Corridor is completed).
4. Road bed repair along Lucerne Dry Lake segment (north of Rabbit Springs Rd.
to north portion of dry lake – (ie: replace expansive clay soils).
NEEDED, BUT NOT PLANNED. (ESPECIALLY DANGEROUS FOR VEHICLES PULLING TRAILERS).
“VERY EXPENSIVE”. RESURFACING ALONE DOESN'T SOLVE ROAD BED INSTABILITY. WE
REQUEST "BUMPY ROAD" SIGNS TO AT LEAST WARN DRIVERS. (Note: A significant
portion from LV to Barstow has recently been re-surfaced - a road with a small
fraction of Hwy 18's ADT).
ADDED PROJECTS: (per numerous previous written requests)
5. Install flashers/rumble strip/larger “stop ahead” and stop signs/etc. from
east and north approaches to 4-way stop at 247/247.
Traffic is increasing (particularly long-haul trucking) – running stop signs.
(35 miles of open road south from Barstow and 45 miles west from Yucca Valley).
Note: Southbound vehicles focus on flashing light at the 247(Crystal Creek
Rd.)/18 intersection south of 4-way stop miss the 247/247 stop.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Bill Pozzi: 18 speakers at the recent Bd. hearing re: GP update. Some new
revisions in Dev. Code.
Jean Morgan: Old Middle School will be site of a community information center.
Informed us of 12/13 Special Education open house meeting at Elem. School. H. S.
School Charter school not voted on yet, board is still taking input. Will be
focused on “career paths in the trades” – start training in the field students
choose. Students will get “academics”, but will be oriented to their selected
trade. In conjunction with VVC. Bob Smith stated he sits on a charter school
board – can help the effort – “doing the same thing”.
Scott Lasley – Museum Assoc.: $ now available to start the Museum building
(between Library and Community Center). Planning on architecture consistent with
library and community center, etc. Museum would use its own $ and apply for
grant funds.
Jim Ventura – MWA: Will not receive this round of Prop. 50 $ for its applied-for
projects – even though it ranked the highest in its initial application. Will
have to try again in the Step 2 process. Major projects may have to seek
alternative funding - unexpected disappointment. The Bd. just approved the
“Water Claim Program” – where one can purchase water now at discounted rates,
and store (recharge) for future use. Not yet approved, but Board proposed a
budget of $100,000 for retrofit water conservation programs. Jim announced his
upcoming “thank you for his re-election” meeting at Sen. Center.
Ernie G.: The store’s phone system has been out of order. Conventional Verizon
contacts produced nothing, until he contacted Mike Page who immediately had it
fixed. Ernie made comment: Not all who run for office are ego-centered – some
really want to help”.
Bob Smith: Asssemb. Bill Maze is setting up mobile offices – will have presence
in LV. SB County is 2nd. largest area in nation for ID theft. Wants to bring
County DA reps. to make presentation to LVEDA. We set the Feb. 6 LVEDA meeting
for it. Bob will provide flyers.
ADJOURNED: 7:10 PM
ROADS - STATUS OF PROJECTS
LUCERNE VALLEY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
MINUTES (draft)
November 7, 2006
5:00 p.m.
LV Community Center
CALL TO ORDER: Pres. Magee at 5:10 PM – Senior Center
FLAG SALUTE: Millie Rader
MOMENT OF SILENCE: Art Bishop Sr.
APPROVED 10/3/06 MINUTES:
TREAS. REPORT: Lynn absent (excused) – no report. “Hat” collected $47 - $30 to
Jo Richards for food reimbursement - $17 to account. Re-approved $525 payment
(plus initial fees) for insurance policy.
PRESENTATIONS/DISCUSSIONS:
Nominating Committee Report – LVEDA Board:
3 Board positions – 3 nominations (Ernie Gommel/Jean Magee/Bob McDougall).
Barbara Veale not running.
Nolte Eng./MWA reps.: Update on Water/Sewer Study – Findings/Recommendations
Chuck summarized long history of community’s attempts and interest re: a
centralized water/sewer system for town center/commercial corridor, etc. LVEDA
obtained grants for study. County provided $25,000 Block Grant funds – MWA
provided remainder. James Owens of Nolte made presentation. (see Nolte’s summary
presentation – attached to these minutes and sent by e-mail separately – cause I
don’t know how else to do it!!!). The main “vision” is to eventually consolidate
systems where feasible and desired. LV qualifies as an economically
“disadvantaged community” – which opens up more funding options (preferably more
grants than loans). A water/sewer district would have to be formed. Initial
phase would likely be on east end (Center Water Co./Schools/County
facilities/shopping center/maybe Lucerne Vista tract/etc. – all who have
expressed interest). School Dist. Business Mgr. Greg Freeman attended and made
comments re: the schools’ interest. (First phase participants may not want to
subsidize west end commercial properties if they are not ready to participate –
so phasing is important). Nitrate contamination of groundwater from increasing
septic systems – particularly in areas of high groundwater levels upstream from
the Helendale Fault – will likely become a future problem without some sewering.
Cost of planning/design/prelim. engineering/district formation/elections/etc.would
be @$600,000 ($300,000 ea. for water and sewer). Total cost of entire project at
full build-out @ $26mil. USDA is potentially a significant source of
grants/loans. Some state Prop. 50$ are still available.
Discussed LVEDA’s continued role (if any) in a possible water/sewer project.
Property owners who would benefit (and assume loans if not entirely grant
funded) will have to help “carry the ball”. It is really up to them. Motion
approved for LVEDA to present the study to MAC – determine its interest – with
opportunity to utilize its more direct connection to Supervisor’s office which
could help with funding – possibly include LVEDA reps. on its (currently
inactive) water/sewer committee. Item will be on 12/19 MAC agenda.
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Planning Commission hearings re: Dev. Code/Halloween Tailgate critique
meeting/High School chartering program.
ADJOURNED: @7PM
C. Bell/ Sec.___________________
Water / Sewer Presentation Outline -
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